A detective on the William Tyrrell case has told a court he was “in shock” when a former colleague allegedly insisted he illegally record a phone call with a suspect.
- Details of the police investigation into William Tyrrell’s disappearance have been revealed in court this week
- That’s because one of the senior detectives on the case is on trial for making illegal recordings of a suspect
- Former NSW Police detective Gary Jubelin claims he had an operational need to record the phone calls
Gary Jubelin, a former senior detective in the Tyrrell investigation, is accused of making four recordings of person of interest Paul Savage in 2017 and 2018, which were not covered by a warrant.
One of those was made at Parramatta police headquarters in November 2017, when Mr Jubelin is accused of asking his then-colleague, Detective Senior Constable Gregory Gallyot, to record a call to Mr Savage while Mr Jubelin’s phone was on speakerphone.
“At first I was in shock,” Det Gallyot told Downing Centre Local Court in Sydney.
“He gave me what I would call a serious or stern look, with a furrowed brow, and stared back at me … he said ‘just do it’.”
Det Gallyot told the court Mr Jubelin instructed him not to save the recording anywhere, but it ended up on a shared drive accessible to all officers on the Tyrrell strikeforce and is now the subject of one of Mr Jubelin’s four charges.
Mr Jubelin has pleaded not guilty and claims he had an operational need to record the conversations.
Det Gallyot told the court Mr Jubelin later approached him, handed him his iPhone and told him there were several recorded interactions with Mr Savage on the device.
Det Gallyot said Mr Jubelin told him the counsel in an upcoming inquest required a synopsis of the recordings.
“[Mr Jubelin said] just do a synopsis, don’t do it word for word, and if anyone asks we’ll just say we obtained it from the listening devices.”
Det Gallyot said the synopsis was for the brief of evidence in the coronial inquest.
The case against Mr Jubelin is that the recordings were outside the scope of court-issued surveillance warrants, either because they were outside the approved time periods or they were not made on an approved surveillance device.
The case has exposed disagreements within the Tyrrell strikeforce about the techniques used and its broader direction.
Det Gallyot said some colleagues disagreed with the heavy focus on Mr Savage — who was never charged — as a person of interest, but Mr Jubelin insisted there was nothing to suggest his innocence.
The hearing, before Magistrate Ross Hudson, was originally set down for five days but will be extended into next week.